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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the anecdotes from 25 years of fuzzdom, and I will just introduce

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you to our speakers.

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We've got Richie who's been staff for about 15 years, and we've got Raphael, who's a very

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special guest, as the founder of Oftem.

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Hear me?

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Okay.

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Well, let's remember that fuzzdom is one index based, so it's the 25th edition, but it's been 24 years

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that it exists.

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The first edition was in 2001.

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Yeah, I do it.

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So the first edition was in 2001.

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The work name was Ozdeck.

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The open source of the European conference.

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It was then renamed to Ozdeck.

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We play using the conference with the meeting, and it started actually, the work on the

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conference.

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The first edition started, the idea started in October.

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The work on the conference itself started in November.

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Just to give you an idea of the chaos that it was.

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It's not to brag about it, but I did a loan, 90% of the things that needed to happen.

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You can imagine that if one person organizes an event that was foreseen to be for 30 people,

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40 people, and that you then get positive answers for big speakers.

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You get positive answers from a big sponsor, and they bring a lot of big names.

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And then you see the interest growing, but you still don't have any idea of how many people

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in the world, because there is no registration.

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Just as today, it's free entrance, everybody's welcome.

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And then the first day, we had 600 people, 700 people.

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And I was the only guy who knew what was happening at the conference at the organization side.

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There was no welcome team, there was no infotainment at that time, there was no welcome stand.

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And people started spontaneously to organize the conference themselves.

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So there was a team that grew at the first edition, the first name infotainment that was absolutely spontaneous.

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And that's why I also see the first name as a software project that grows from one person that has an idea, shares it,

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encourages to participate, and it's been a great pleasure to see it first of them grow that way.

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One question I get was, why in February, I don't like the cold, I like the summer, good weather,

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but when I was then, for the first edition, when I was then started, it was known by no one, nobody knew it.

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So I decided to organize it in February, because in February in Paris there was a big Linux conference,

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big Linux commercial conference, and I thought it would be great to have a conference for developers,

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really focusing on the development of open source software.

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And that's how the idea came.

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And yes, first them started as scheduling in comparison to others, so trying to get people coming from Paris to the conference.

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Because this often the opposite, there are a lot of smaller conferences that are planning according to first them,

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but at the start, first them started as planning compared to another conference.

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Regarding, again, the first edition, six weeks before the devents, I didn't have a venue,

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so I had big name, speakers, a lot of interest, a lot of visit to the website, activities on the mailing list, but no venue.

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That was stressful.

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But mid December, I think, end of December, I got the confirmation, we could go at the ULB, on the other campus,

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and have two rooms there for the conferences.

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But six weeks before the event, it was still not true, and it was still possible, it had to be cancelled.

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And that's giving an idea of the chaos at the organization of the first them conference.

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In the beginning, first them was not very well known, and we even printed posters that we sent to other universities to make it better known.

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Regarding the organization, of course, to bring speakers at the event, it got money.

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So nobody in the organization is paid, and this is still like that.

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But you still have cost for travel, hotel and so on.

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The first edition, everything went very well, great names and so to positively, via Linux, sponsored the event and a lot of speakers.

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But then via Linux, it was announced as the new Dell, at that time it was the .com boom.

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But the second year, for the second edition of first them, the Linux was not there anymore for the money.

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So it was a hard time to find sponsors, find the money, and during a long time, I didn't have any sponsor.

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I tried to get sponsor, but either get good negative answer or new answer at all.

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And especially for more highly, I tried several times to mail them, never go to an answer.

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And one day, I decided to go to cold them.

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And I thought if they don't answer, if they don't say yes, they will be no second edition.

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So for the second edition, it was really, really hard.

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And luckily, at the last minute, I got Joseph from Morale, and she was very enthusiastic.

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And from then, they started to sponsor the event.

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And they were sponsor until 2020, I think, something like that.

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But for a long time, they had a booth selling books, but until Brexit, until Brexit.

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Yes.

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Can you hear me like this?

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Yes.

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So just to be clear, it's still pure chaos.

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The thing didn't change.

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So yeah, there's also just now a little bit of random bits and pieces over the following years.

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For those who remember who we're here, remember as the physical booklet.

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Yeah, that booklet.

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That booklet.

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Yeah, so we used to actually cut off like two weeks before, before foster, which was great, given Christmas.

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And New Year isn't everything, like really, really great to have this timing.

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So we could make the booklet, and we could write other late source, and had to be in late for reason and everything.

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And speaking for myself, once I did almost alone, once I did completely alone, not sleeping for two nights.

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I'm not as young anymore, but finally we got rid of the booklet.

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It's really great to not have to say the word.

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IPv6, some of you might know, because something we are actually quite proud about.

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Well, I didn't catch anything, you just said.

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I didn't catch anything, you just said.

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Sorry, maybe just wait until after.

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Or do you have a mic? Yeah, go ahead.

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I just wanted to say IPv4 was planned back then day with all those octids.

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And when it was designed, there was this feeling that there would be too many addresses that there would be just not enough just too many.

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And we got to the point of IPv6, right?

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And that's probably just wanted to cut in like this and say hello word.

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It's more of a comment than a question.

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And yes, IPv6 was already done in 1996, so also not super relevant to here, but thank you.

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We were actually the first major non-network conference.

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There was the ripe conference, which did it once before us.

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They beat us by only like a few weeks.

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But we were the first non-network conference, which had IPv6 only on the main network.

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This was another one of those, of those first ones, where there was very little sleep involved.

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I think I went to the hotel just to shower, nothing else.

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We actually had two slides, one with normal and one with sorry, we don't have any internet for you,

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because everything was broken.

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And I literally radioed in OK go with the good one.

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I think I have it.

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Also, this broke Ubuntu's implementation of network management.

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And their booth got really, really busy.

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I just like what I knew the person who initially started network management.

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He had, and this one got fixed really quickly.

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Like really good.

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The booth was just annoyed with people who were broken.

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IPv4.

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We used to have more IPv4 and called, always sponsored the address space.

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And then they couldn't anymore, because the pressure on the IPv4 space just became too much.

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And for those who don't know, IPv6 actually offers temporary V4 space, which you can get for events,

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and which you can get for research purposes.

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And they had extremely hard rules on how long you could have it.

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You had to give a detailed plan of the excitement, everything.

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And maybe it was two weeks.

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Maybe it was like seven days.

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Maybe it was three days.

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I forget the details.

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But like super short amount of time to actually build up the BGP session,

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talk to your upstream people.

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Can you please update the filter?

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Because I updated all those route objects.

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And can you please know it doesn't work?

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Can you please do it?

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And then it still doesn't work in South America.

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Because that takes like three to five days to actually get there.

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So they couldn't watch the streams in South America ever.

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So the fix was, I just got to events.

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It's easy to chase the policy and now for anyone.

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It's just different.

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And now we have enough space for this kind of thing.

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Something which was not planned this way.

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I promise.

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But pretty soon after this.

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And actually remember of the European Parliament will be speaking

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in the smallest room we have.

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Which maybe tells you a little bit about how this is really not about.

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Oh, there is a big name.

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And this and that and we are going to do something about it.

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Everyone gets their space where they get it.

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And then they just come do their thing.

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And this is also part of what makes custom great that people really are equal.

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The fiber we have a story from 2010.

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But also don't know.

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The O-Building is there where all of the outside connections used to come.

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It's a little bit different these days thankfully.

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And we had to go to info desk in H.

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Because we still had our main hardware in H at that time.

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Nothing came.

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And we pulled a fiber through the fire shafts,

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through the two puddles, through the water, through everything.

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It managed to break seven out of eight fibers.

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And then we had to fix it.

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And thankfully could borrow a splicing thing.

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And also here hostie who was in train in addition.

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Kind of fixed it.

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But we didn't have any other hardware.

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So literally just to scotch tape and try to.

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And it worked.

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But what we didn't realize.

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We actually had flipped the X and RX.

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But also don't know.

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That means like unless you can physically just re-pluck this in the physical switch.

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Or in the in the g-bake or SFP of the physical switch.

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You're screwed.

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So be know who at the time still led the.

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The a TD department of resulb, which is like the a TD department with inulb.

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He was on holiday.

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And he started for a in the morning.

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To drive back back from north eastern France.

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Back to Brussels.

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Just to unlock the door.

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Repluck the fiber.

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I don't know if I can go back to his family who wasn't super pleased with everything.

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The column.

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In 2018 someone decided to paint a column blue.

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Enter a conversation with you.

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Be about the world and the universe and birds and trees.

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And I don't know.

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Which please don't do it.

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But if you go to the column you still see a little bit of blue.

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So it also like it lasted for quite some time.

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But also to be clear if you do this and be catching your out.

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You know, just to be very clear.

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So unless it's on the ground paper we get into massive issues with you.

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I just leave this is actually something which improved massively over the last few years.

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It used to really be running on on the complete lack of sleep of a lot of people and.

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A few people who are too stubborn and stupid to say no this is stupid.

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I'm going to stop like a lot of us were just pushing through as they could.

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We have become much better at this thankfully over the years.

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And we actually do get sleep and sometimes we get to see the sun which is.

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Uncommon for us during for them.

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In front of the Wi-Fi for those who have been here longer.

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It used to just not work like not at all.

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Also for those who remember we use a physical hacker spaces with physical switches with physical network

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cabling and you could plug in your laptop and for the first.

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As awesome.

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There are laptops where not really a thing we even had.

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Physical CRTs and computers where people could sit down and hack on.

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Which today seems completely insane.

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Of course I have all the information of of humanity in my pocket and so does everyone else in here.

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But it was a completely different time.

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And again personally speaking who guns with once that lost in Brussels.

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Somewhere in the in the government district that we literally just hacked the WAP.

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Of the government institution.

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Of a random building.

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I mean just to get online and get some online maps and to see where we actually very

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because we were completely lost and we didn't have anything.

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Mobile and was middle of the night we couldn't ask anyone.

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Water.

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So for those who know now often we have to replan rooms.

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Sometimes we even realized on a Saturday that there is currently a marvellous

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office going on in the room which we thought we had but we built up in the wrong room.

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And so we have to completely change everything and tear it out of the complete room and build up a new room.

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That happened just this this edition.

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Very in the morning try to get started and basically there was a marvellous session.

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And they probably wondered what all the video equipment was but they just did their thing.

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And yeah.

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But one time we actually had flooding.

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And the water literally flowed out of the water during what was supposed to be custom.

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And yeah then they just told us yeah this is not normal.

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Like the multi python sketch of the front fell off.

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That's like similar to that situation.

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And next year they actually renovated the room a little bit.

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We still have sometimes leak roofs and such.

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I mean some of those buildings are literally over 100 years old in particular a W

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that thing just happens.

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This is me debugging the power distribution last year and just plug putting in the the circuit breaker every now and then again.

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And then someone replugs something and the circuit breaker pops.

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And then we divide and counter and figure out where the actual fault is because we didn't have any measurement equipment.

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In cameras we always went under again on the money topic.

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If you don't have money you don't have no foster.

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We rented out equipment in particular one specific type of camera.

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Which we needed for our specific setup and we rented out all of Belgium.

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And Northern Germany.

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For this specific type of camera and some other equipment.

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We actually spent so much when we actually got the build is almost made for them phone.

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We obviously recovered but this was another one of those situations where we almost just didn't had any money.

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And actually it reminds me that for the first edition maybe even the second one.

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We rented beavers to project the slides because there were no beavers.

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I mean it's unbelievable now.

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But we had to provide a computer with a beavers to project some slides.

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So it's yeah we've come a long way.

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Very long way.

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Also for those who don't know in particular in older buildings like you or a W or H.

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The reason why it's so insanely loud up front is because those rooms are literally designed for a time where you didn't have microphones.

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You just stood there and you just talked loudly and everyone else in the audience had to hear you.

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And there's why a lot of those rooms are so insanely loud in both directions.

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And why it's so unbearable if people talk or bang the chairs when they move in and out and you have a speaker up front.

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Because they are literally designed to project sound in both directions because they're very built for a time where we didn't have those things.

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Okay.

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That was planned.

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Nothing.

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There is no accident at any first time ever.

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Everything is planned.

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In 2013 we had finished first them and we were done with everything and we cleaned up everything.

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And as per usual we thought we were pretty good about it.

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And then we had chaos.

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Good.

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And then we got a call.

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And some of us were super angry with us.

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Of course we did not clean up properly.

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We really thought we were like, we had our due diligence.

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Speaking as a former Teflon Manager, I literally used a broom on carpet just to get stuff out.

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Like we took this seriously.

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Yeah.

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We had forgotten one thing.

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And a year or two later we forgot the same thing again.

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There's also in the more personal level.

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There's this theme because I did ask for anecdotes from people and many people reached out and told us how.

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It's basically closed rooms over filled rooms and lots of conversations.

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But also about how many people really got life changing events, how initiatives got started, how even some foundations really got there.

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They boosted their kick from fostering with the help of fostering were able to grow.

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If it's a fee and others amongst them, like a lot of things really grew and came from fostering going obviously both ways because it's not just us being great and awesome.

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Obviously we are.

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But like it's not just us doing this.

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It's also always going in all directions and everyone helping each other and uplifting everyone else.

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Just wanting to join me.

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And I think that's really a key of first them and from the start.

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The idea is was to bring hackers together and to help discuss exchange ideas and at the first edition we had a room.

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And after the event I went in the room and on the blackboard you saw people add on schema, discussing and that's was really great.

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That was the meaning that's us them at reached its goal.

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And today it's still the same thing. It's much bigger.

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But the key thing is that when you come to foster them you meet people from all horizons.

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You can discuss about a lot of subject.

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A lot of technical subjects makes me think about the Belgian guy who was working on an encryption algorithm.

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And I invited him and he said, you know, conference, what we like to talk about there.

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And I told him, it's technical.

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Good technical, good technical.

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And then he said, I maybe, maybe.

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And afterwards it told me, I didn't believe the question I got.

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Oh, technical those were the level of technical question he had was unexpected for him.

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And that's also great.

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Means you have all all technical levels at first name.

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You can learn a lot, but you can teach a lot also because there are a lot of people there for learning too.

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And that's that's really great to see it continue.

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Always track as the best part of fostering.

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Myself included there is a lot of people who only see friends once a year.

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Fast to miss important to a lot of us.

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So yeah, I'm very happy to see this slide.

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Because then as far as being about open mind accepting everyone.

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And it has always been constructive, positive.

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We never went against something.

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We always went for something, for freedom, for new things.

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For exchange, for discussion, not for distracting commercial software.

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We don't care about that.

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We always want to be constructive.

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And I hope that we'll stay like that.

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We see change.

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There has been discussion about denial of service against Muslim.

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I mean sitting during a talk.

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That's not for them.

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What's them is constructive.

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If you don't agree, express your disagreement, but don't sabotage the event.

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The event is organized by people in their free time.

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If you're a millionaire of software project, you know that when an entitled user comes in and say,

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you have to implement that because that's a good idea.

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I tell you, is that's great?

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No, it will burn developers.

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It will bring to burn out.

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It's the same for the conference here.

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People are volunteering.

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If you destroy their work, it's no fun.

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So let's remember to be positive.

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And if you don't agree, you can express it, but don't destroy anything.

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Always be positive and constructive.

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That's really, really important.

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Thank you.

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I have this tradition that is going to be a photo.

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There's also going to be a photo just after.

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Because everyone has old t-shirts is heavily invited to take part.

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If you don't want to be in the photo, just cover your face.

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If you want to be in the photo.

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I think we forgot something very important.

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No?

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No, that's comes after.

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If you want to confront Walter, he's hiding.

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If you go through, I think Walter is coming.

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No, not.

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There is a Walter.

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There's also for those who don't know a photo project, which has been running for like five years of portrays.

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The photographer already had to leave.

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But I'll just go and put a few photos here.

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They're really licensed.

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Everyone agreed to be on those photos.

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You also have contact information at the back.

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If at future for them, you want to be photographed yourself.

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So you can just take one if you want to.

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For me personally, last year it was the kidney.

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This year it's a car accident, so maybe I can do it again next year.

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But for them always ends with the dance.

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I think you remember for them is for having fun.

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Who was there in 2001 or until 2005, six?

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Okay.

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So you remember me talking on a sitting on the table, moving my legs like that.

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Several years later, I learned that it was annoying people.

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I didn't know.

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And every year at the opening session I was there like that.

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Very enthusiastic.

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But yeah.

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So as you know, we at post them, it's also having a question about having fun.

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We sang, we danced.

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And there's the famous constant dance.

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This was invented by Damia Sondras,

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who is the first guy that joined me in organizing the event.

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And we were tired.

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It was the Sunday afternoon.

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We were tired.

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And he was saying, man, I'm tired.

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I'm always running, running around.

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And we had so much fun seeing the doing that.

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It became the first dance.

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So if someone wants to join on stage for the first dance,

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let's do it again.

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That also goes for all attendees.

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If you want to join the dance, go on stage.

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Yeah.

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The two of us.

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Okay.

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Let's go.

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The first dance.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And continue having fun at first them.

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It's great to see it continue like that.

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Yeah.

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So there's a seamless transition for anyone who brought old

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first them or us them or other relevant open source shirts.

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Now is your time to come up on stage for the photographers.

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Go over here somewhere.

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And we are going to take a photo of everyone with their old T shirts.

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Or jackets or hoodies or whatever.

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You can also, if you want.

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Ooh.

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You want it?

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Okay, perfect.

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Just find this base.

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I can do your thing.

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Also take a photo of this so you can send me the last year T shirt.

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Good enough.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If you only have this year's T shirt, that's also fully okay.

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It's about to shirt, not about oh, it's X years time or whatever.

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Yes.

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Do you want to?

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I need to.

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Well, we read from left to right.

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If you have an early year try and stand on this side.

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If you have a later year try and stand on this side.

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Do you want to go through and sort people a little?

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No, no, everyone.

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If you have a t shirt.

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Yeah.

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Go on stage.

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What are you coding?

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Probably yours.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I have a Q and a year.

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If you've heard about that.

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I left it in a photo because they've got it.

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It is internality.

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Can I just go ahead?

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Yeah.

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Don't send it to front.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This year's volunteer shirt also counts if you want.

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Special guests don't need a shirt.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I won't.

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I was going to say that.

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It's actually better if people go in the rows as tears because then you can see the shirts.

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That's an angle.

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Yeah.

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Everybody's going to be squashed.

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You can do both.

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We do both.

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Yeah.

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What's the offer?

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There's a wish.

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I'm not scared.

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I must admit that I can't scan.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So both you.

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What are you also taking pictures?

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Okay.

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So we have enough.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Just go ahead.

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What?

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Do you also want to go a little bit in the middle for the photo?

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Same as Alister.

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And we also have a professional like with real tripod and

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Try pot and search, but that's going to take a minute or two, I think.

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And it's a wait for the tripod, it doesn't take a single photo yet, so wait a bit.

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Yeah, we're going to flip it afterwards.

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If you need me to count down to smile or something or if you want to use your fingers or your hand or...

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Wait a minute, everyone stay in position, we are going to take two or three and then we're going to flip the complete room.

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It's long, it's not a blue column.

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