WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:09.560 The Ministry of Digital Affairs and the localization community aiming to showcase Taiwan's open 00:09.560 --> 00:13.760 source contributions and promote civic tech and open source tools and local communities. 00:13.760 --> 00:17.920 A long-time cream cheerleader to Koska, the conference for open source coders, users and 00:17.920 --> 00:21.160 promoters, engaged in marketing and outreach efforts. 00:21.160 --> 00:25.400 Enjoy creating charming and engaging designs to inspire love for open source. 00:25.400 --> 00:26.760 Please join me in welcoming Anne. 00:26.760 --> 00:34.920 Okay, hello F1, I'm from Taiwan and this is my topic. 00:34.920 --> 00:40.280 I'm a new and cultural community member from OCR just mentioned before and I'm the 00:40.280 --> 00:42.880 Koska band here since 2013. 00:42.880 --> 00:48.320 It's a conference for open source coders, using promoters in tech tech Taiwan and I'm from 00:48.320 --> 00:56.200 OCR and we have a non-profit foundation that we really close field about open tech 00:56.200 --> 00:59.920 community and government with CISO and the private sector. 00:59.920 --> 01:04.200 And also we have co-fildered with local founders and international pound and regional 01:04.200 --> 01:05.200 founders. 01:05.200 --> 01:10.800 And we focus on five focus on the open data open source of government and also the digital 01:10.800 --> 01:13.040 rise and the internet freedoms. 01:13.040 --> 01:17.640 And maybe we can mention about our open tech feature of future 10 years. 01:17.640 --> 01:22.360 Our open source is not a while of first term, we boost the open source ecosystem. 01:22.360 --> 01:28.040 We hope that open trend can apply in more business in Taiwan and also we really appreciate 01:28.040 --> 01:34.400 that we can have an impairment of the public money and public code in the government 01:34.400 --> 01:35.400 agency. 01:35.400 --> 01:38.200 So these are all light of my today's talk. 01:38.200 --> 01:43.240 We have the, I'm talking about the impotence of localization for the Taiwan's community 01:43.240 --> 01:49.280 and the project assumption and also the second part we are talking about the framework 01:49.280 --> 01:54.560 like I use a cover reference for the multi-step holder in the organization. 01:54.560 --> 02:00.040 And he has some territory for each of us and we have high fast. 02:00.040 --> 02:05.360 And also I would talk about our role inside of OCR we have the central coordinators. 02:05.360 --> 02:11.680 In the third part we are talking about P-Find, K-Find, K-Find and K-Bogs area of ultimatizing, 02:11.680 --> 02:17.200 ultimatizing the government perspective and the open source and also the collaboration 02:17.280 --> 02:21.920 of more Taiwan and the communities and also the third part engagement with local industry 02:21.920 --> 02:25.040 and the international communities. 02:25.040 --> 02:30.240 So the first step was the importance of a localization for Taiwan's community and the 02:30.240 --> 02:32.200 project assumption. 02:32.200 --> 02:35.960 So let's now have a background of this project. 02:35.960 --> 02:43.480 This project is really initial in the very early stage of the multi-modized the ministry 02:43.480 --> 02:45.880 of digital affairs in Taiwan. 02:45.880 --> 02:51.520 It just really, really needs ministry and since 2002 actually we get a zero-year-old 02:51.520 --> 03:00.720 one country of this, we are really, first of all, in the country we cooperate with this 03:00.720 --> 03:01.720 ministry. 03:01.720 --> 03:08.920 This is 2002, also if I have cooperate with MOTA and the state is the local tech business 03:08.920 --> 03:13.640 and the government, this is the government fund localization project. 03:13.640 --> 03:18.040 And their goal is that they are not to make an a civic attack and the open source 03:18.040 --> 03:20.680 tools more accessible in Taiwan. 03:20.680 --> 03:25.080 So actually we help with the international, actually what we do is make an international 03:25.080 --> 03:30.760 open source project, tech and loot and the truth locally in Taiwan. 03:30.760 --> 03:36.440 So through our history, let's year also year have attempted to map out the 30 years of 03:36.440 --> 03:40.080 the open source development history in Taiwan. 03:40.080 --> 03:46.240 Taiwan's earliest open source project is almost began with lost localization efforts 03:46.240 --> 03:48.720 and the instructional documentary. 03:48.720 --> 03:57.680 So anyway, because as a lot of hardware is original in English or other forums, forums, 03:57.680 --> 03:58.680 language. 03:58.680 --> 04:07.000 So localization is really important for us to have to advocate the open source to everybody. 04:07.000 --> 04:12.120 And open source obviously have been role in these open source localization, also also 04:12.120 --> 04:17.480 have as a coordinator, first letting the collaboration between the government and the communities 04:17.480 --> 04:19.400 and in the history. 04:19.400 --> 04:29.080 And our final, finally, some project will contribute back to the afternoon and well others 04:29.080 --> 04:33.360 become a localization for Taiwan. 04:33.360 --> 04:38.480 Then, they thought I wanted to take here, I wanted to introduce my multi-styleholder localizing 04:38.480 --> 04:39.480 network. 04:39.480 --> 04:47.640 So, this is my often work, first we prepare pre-translation and prepare for the project. 04:47.640 --> 04:55.520 As the, as the, you can see the stakeholder icons in the left tongue, you can see, with the 04:55.520 --> 05:01.360 light brew once is the water, the water government that cooperation with us and with 05:01.360 --> 05:04.760 the brew once is the local tech thing, why they do. 05:04.760 --> 05:13.080 And with the purple once, the partner, translator, and those are our Taiwan's localization 05:13.080 --> 05:14.080 communities. 05:14.080 --> 05:20.560 And also the original one is from OCEF, Co-Technology, what we do to pay others. 05:20.560 --> 05:27.480 First of all, each of these, each of the projects, when we get, when we negotiate with 05:27.480 --> 05:31.720 the international project and we will have prepared a task for the translation. 05:31.720 --> 05:38.360 And we, as the, as, as the, as the sizing, the chance to the translation to the professional 05:38.360 --> 05:44.520 and the community, both both the professional and the community, chance data together to 05:44.520 --> 05:45.520 complete the project. 05:45.520 --> 05:51.360 And we use the, we use the webnet to, to make them work together. 05:51.360 --> 05:56.460 Then, then, after we have the first time translated from into the Chinese, we have the first 05:56.460 --> 05:57.460 stage of peer review. 05:57.460 --> 06:05.460 And as we have the first stage of peer review, our tech, local tech, will help us to 06:05.460 --> 06:07.660 stand out the demo and environment. 06:07.660 --> 06:11.460 And it is really important because the government, the government in Taiwan, just want to 06:11.460 --> 06:16.660 see or pass your process while you are doing now and do, do you, do you finish which 06:16.660 --> 06:17.660 worse? 06:17.660 --> 06:22.260 And you will come to the, come to the environment demo in time to check out what we are 06:22.260 --> 06:23.260 doing now. 06:23.260 --> 06:30.540 So, after the set out of the demo, in demo environment, we just put the first stage 06:30.540 --> 06:42.220 peer review review web that, on the important translation, we will do the second stage of peer 06:42.220 --> 06:43.220 review. 06:43.220 --> 06:47.700 And those, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, these, 06:47.700 --> 06:53.180 we will finish our, our project and, but we do our project in, in the same time, also 06:53.180 --> 06:58.540 everywhere, well, come there with the community and also come to the international issue, 06:58.540 --> 07:02.180 or there is some promoting this translation project. 07:02.180 --> 07:07.300 And also, we can see the light blue things that government do in the, you know, in the 07:07.300 --> 07:08.300 best side. 07:08.300 --> 07:13.600 Then, for the first, after we've finished the first stage, we are trying to arrange the 07:13.600 --> 07:21.800 cursory with the, the cursory with the government, because in Taiwan, we have a lot of 07:21.800 --> 07:28.320 um, um, in government that use the different words that as the Taiwan community use. 07:28.320 --> 07:34.600 Then it's really, really, it's really, uh, for the community, they really, we don't like 07:34.600 --> 07:41.600 those words, those words, which government choose, but we use this, we use the cursory 07:41.600 --> 07:48.600 concerns, confirmation, in this step, government, take their, is take their, what their 07:48.600 --> 07:49.600 conceitors. 07:49.600 --> 07:55.120 And we, arrange those conceitors and have a negotiation with the community. 07:55.120 --> 08:00.720 Some community, they're, they're saying, a, is a credit, is right, and we change it. 08:00.720 --> 08:05.360 So in the first stage, we will be, we use the, at the first stage period, we will use 08:05.360 --> 08:09.120 the cursory, we cooperate with the, with the government. 08:09.120 --> 08:17.280 And after the first, the second stage of here review, the government, they will have, uh, to 08:17.280 --> 08:23.720 approve of, of, of, of, of, of, of, after they approve of all the result, then we can, we can 08:23.720 --> 08:26.720 upstream, we can upload back to the afternoon. 08:26.720 --> 08:34.200 Because they really concern about, because these, uh, these, uh, government, best government, 08:34.200 --> 08:39.080 they have, they have, they have money inside, so they say, they, the worst, most, very 08:39.080 --> 08:43.920 accurate, accurate, where I, right, to, on, on, on, on, on the, on the, on the, on the 08:43.920 --> 08:44.920 afternoon. 08:44.920 --> 08:50.960 So after, of all, we are localized to the translation feedback to the, aftering. 08:50.960 --> 08:56.400 So in this multi-houters, then we, the purpose of this thing, when we are trying to ensure 08:56.400 --> 09:01.600 that, while a government provides a finding, we still want that community to, in test, 09:01.600 --> 09:09.360 autonomy, prevent the directly government, because most of Taiwan, Taiwan's, uh, community 09:09.360 --> 09:16.560 or localization communities, they don't like the, uh, lost paper work or lost, instruction 09:16.560 --> 09:17.560 from the government. 09:17.560 --> 09:23.280 So, obviously, in, in, in, in, in the, we just trying to need to go to the, they, they, 09:23.280 --> 09:27.720 both up to, they're going to have, they have a consensus, they're quite, quite, how, how 09:27.720 --> 09:32.720 we, to do the things together, and the same part is that, in, has all of localization 09:32.720 --> 09:37.120 security, first of all, information between the local business, texting and the open source 09:37.120 --> 09:38.120 community. 09:38.120 --> 09:43.720 And, by pro, by the, if you're setting up the testing environment, the interim with the web 09:43.720 --> 09:49.680 net, government official can participate in the localization process. 09:49.680 --> 09:55.680 This is why we, uh, we choose the lower web and that to, to do it. 09:55.680 --> 10:03.720 And, uh, applying this framework, I have some key consideration, maybe I'm going to discuss 10:03.720 --> 10:04.720 with everybody. 10:04.720 --> 10:09.800 Somehow, generally, I already have their own legalizing towards the workflow. 10:09.800 --> 10:16.120 So, our approach is to, prioritize the communication with the upstream maintenance, or 10:16.120 --> 10:23.680 a student is extending localization team to manage the last-scale edit, is open, avoid, or 10:23.680 --> 10:26.520 distribute current communities. 10:26.520 --> 10:32.240 And different, you know, optional between the professional and the professional, professional 10:32.240 --> 10:39.640 translators and the community viewers, and we require, we offer you all, OSEF, to make 10:39.640 --> 10:42.640 it that and analyze the possibilities. 10:42.640 --> 10:48.840 I think that work, it was, and, you know, about, we have a three years project, and, 10:48.840 --> 10:53.880 suddenly, some limitation of current process design, since the government corruption 10:53.880 --> 10:58.400 are part of bad and maintaining credit, his standards is a priority. 10:58.400 --> 11:01.600 Making the release process is less feasible. 11:01.600 --> 11:08.440 We can only fully resist and contribute a upstream after, obtain the whole approval of 11:08.440 --> 11:10.600 an over-order result from the government. 11:10.600 --> 11:18.240 But, as we know, the, the almost of open source project release frequently, but the government 11:18.240 --> 11:26.800 didn't let, we can, trace on the, frequently, of, of, of the open source project. 11:26.800 --> 11:31.960 And this, come, come, see, then, the open source spring, we invite the continuous and 11:31.960 --> 11:34.560 transfer, the consumer issues. 11:34.560 --> 11:40.480 And they are straightforward, because area, or OSEF, called, in the, called, in the localization 11:40.480 --> 11:42.480 strategy. 11:42.480 --> 11:48.520 The history of it is one is that we, OSEF, see the government perspective on the open 11:48.520 --> 11:49.520 source. 11:49.520 --> 11:55.720 And the second part, that we incorporate collaboration among the Taiwan's communities, and 11:55.720 --> 12:00.360 engagement with the local international communities. 12:00.360 --> 12:07.440 What is life important, we want to optimize the government perspective on open source. 12:07.440 --> 12:14.080 As many, many people in, come to our list, then, well, as you have the minister, the open 12:14.080 --> 12:18.880 source, actually, a row, we have the ministry of the open source community. 12:18.880 --> 12:28.440 Isn't, in that ministry, in not all, C.V. servants are fully understand the collaboration, 12:28.440 --> 12:32.880 name, courage, culture of the open source communities. 12:32.880 --> 12:40.840 Some government, personally, even assume that all the open source communities operate 12:40.840 --> 12:43.120 in a single, a meaningful way. 12:43.120 --> 12:47.640 So there was a whole, all of the project you choose. 12:47.640 --> 12:53.760 She was having in the same, in the same process, and you have to use the same words. 12:53.760 --> 12:58.880 And we are very, very confused, because some of them, like they, they asked the some work 12:58.880 --> 13:05.760 in the game to use, maybe, use in the next call, and they were totally different 13:05.760 --> 13:07.160 meaning of that. 13:07.160 --> 13:11.920 But they were, they were asked to do that, because we are governance, so all the, all the 13:11.920 --> 13:17.920 project, before after we, after we contribute, the money inside, and you should be 13:17.920 --> 13:19.320 have the same words. 13:19.320 --> 13:27.520 But we try a lot to educate them, each community, each community have their own culture. 13:27.520 --> 13:34.000 So, we educate the government of visual, and open source community, and the current 13:34.000 --> 13:35.000 collaboration model. 13:35.000 --> 13:39.440 Two types of experience, how the characteristics of the governance structure of different 13:39.440 --> 13:41.600 international open source projects. 13:41.600 --> 13:48.960 We do the, we try to tell them, in the game, they have their own, own, own, country, culture, 13:48.960 --> 13:52.520 and free OTP have their own country, we come to culture. 13:52.520 --> 13:59.320 And we deliver the COVID-19 policy, and this is the way that we find out that we're trying 13:59.320 --> 14:04.560 to, in the grocery, we ask the government to make their concern on the web, but there's 14:04.560 --> 14:10.560 a net, we answer what the community comes in to the government. 14:10.560 --> 14:17.200 The government will say, oh, your concern is, maybe it's great, so, after this concern, 14:17.200 --> 14:22.800 to ensure the consistency of the temporary across the stakeholder, everybody will use the 14:22.800 --> 14:28.880 same words, so, collaboration of multi-carbon communities, communities, and due to the 14:28.880 --> 14:35.160 characteristics of the Chinese language, some translation management tools are able to 14:35.160 --> 14:38.720 standardize over the terminal technology choice. 14:38.720 --> 14:44.160 Additionally, the past, the contributors, family different priorities have never hindered 14:44.160 --> 14:47.800 us terminology, preference in the use habits. 14:47.800 --> 14:55.240 So we partner with the Taiwan localization communities to establish the new review process, 14:55.240 --> 14:59.760 to ensure the high standard and the quality of the governance for the government, these 14:59.760 --> 15:03.200 government, government, and project. 15:03.200 --> 15:10.200 And also, we, collaboration amongst Taiwan's community, we have to make a two-man, a major 15:10.200 --> 15:15.320 survey, surveys, and a close card, 2020 and 2004. 15:15.320 --> 15:24.520 And in the 2020 tree, we just identified the critical open source project that hold Taiwan's 15:24.520 --> 15:32.120 Taiwan's, Taiwan's communities, and 80's really needed, and the first one is bewildered. 15:32.120 --> 15:37.600 The second one is Fender, that we did then take inside because Fender got too many 15:37.600 --> 15:38.600 worse. 15:38.600 --> 15:42.960 We cannot, because in Taiwan, every project that you should finish in maybe about half 15:42.960 --> 15:44.680 a year or one year. 15:44.680 --> 15:47.280 So the Bender's get too many worse. 15:47.280 --> 15:48.280 We didn't get it. 15:48.280 --> 15:51.360 And also, the six, one, three, you get the same problem. 15:51.360 --> 15:56.960 So now we come to the seventh one to the most, yeah. 15:56.960 --> 16:05.360 The next one, they are showing truth in the next, the next purpose for which we want to 16:05.360 --> 16:06.360 taking. 16:07.360 --> 16:12.440 In case you wish, the local business and international communities is really important 16:12.440 --> 16:13.440 for us. 16:13.440 --> 16:20.800 Many Taiwanese business, tech teams, lack of experience in open source contribution culture. 16:20.800 --> 16:26.600 They used the open source project, but they didn't will know how the community was also. 16:26.600 --> 16:31.440 So they may find the bad, but they didn't know how to communicate with the upstream. 16:31.440 --> 16:40.400 How to, how to, they know how to deploy the party, but they didn't know how to, how to 16:40.400 --> 16:44.800 report, they have some problems and how to negotiate with the upstream. 16:44.800 --> 16:51.440 So obviously, a facility on the standing of licensing and the construction for and the 16:51.440 --> 16:52.960 afternoon engagement. 16:52.960 --> 16:57.560 So these interactions goes both way. 16:57.560 --> 17:02.560 This is the example that we suggest for addressing for the local need. 17:02.560 --> 17:08.920 Also, if we have, we have help with the metamorphose report and resolve the data to display 17:08.920 --> 17:15.000 bug in Chinese, CKJ's group, and the work with the upstream communities to address 17:15.000 --> 17:20.360 the significant difference between the Simepile and the traditional Chinese. 17:20.360 --> 17:27.520 And this bug, I just used the metamorphose over five years, but after I joined this project, 17:27.520 --> 17:34.880 I decided that there is a date display problem, because here we should have a September 26th 17:34.880 --> 17:43.040 and here we should have a date here, but it's hard to display quite a day there to the upstream. 17:43.040 --> 17:53.760 So let's try to address these needs to make this much more, much more obvious to fix 17:53.760 --> 17:54.760 it. 17:55.000 --> 17:57.000 Also, we say this is in both ways. 17:57.000 --> 18:04.040 So I had to arrange the frequency as questioned from low international communities. 18:04.040 --> 18:09.080 First, the one is that really is an issue related to the date and the currency and other 18:09.080 --> 18:11.880 formatting in the project. 18:11.880 --> 18:18.920 So we're trying to take a screen strad of our usage homepage, ensure that display in the 18:18.920 --> 18:25.240 poverty adjustment, it had poverty adjustment after week's suggestion. 18:25.240 --> 18:32.280 And the second part is that a lot of international committee will express that 18:32.280 --> 18:38.280 can the Simepile Chinese be directly converted into the traditional Chinese. 18:39.560 --> 18:41.720 This is not a political issue. 18:41.720 --> 18:45.320 This is the problem of lay out a grammatical difference. 18:46.120 --> 18:52.200 Some of the words we have the company up inside, meaning between the two words and the right 18:52.200 --> 18:53.560 in those writing systems. 18:53.560 --> 18:59.480 Also, we have the different rates of the different words in the inside of it. 19:00.920 --> 19:07.560 Also, we have a frequency as a this question is that for the project, 19:07.560 --> 19:15.160 that generate PDF or image, which the font article, CJK compiler level. 19:15.880 --> 19:23.240 Actually, there's no one single font file, cancel off or issue. 19:23.240 --> 19:30.280 But some font families such as notosycaget series can complement each others. 19:31.800 --> 19:35.400 So next is the last part of mine on the takeaway. 19:36.360 --> 19:42.520 Well, welcome to its parole or everybody to explore our collaborative framework 19:42.520 --> 19:44.680 for the multi-stepholder localization. 19:45.560 --> 19:48.840 We are also to move forward how we can improve it together. 19:48.840 --> 19:56.520 Made the government can corroboration, feel a natural and similar work with the open source community. 19:57.160 --> 20:02.760 And the second one is that sure this collaborative models, also for the government, 20:02.760 --> 20:10.680 the business and the community, I'm really happy we all go together because we're just trying to educate each 20:10.680 --> 20:16.600 others. And as part, while traditional and simplified Chinese character, we could be these 20:16.600 --> 20:24.360 amateurs. But they should be treated as the stringed language with the different 20:24.440 --> 20:31.720 groups structure, avoid to using automatists, simplify to the traditional convention tool. 20:31.720 --> 20:36.200 As this time, we just find out a lot of parts that use this kind of tool. 20:36.200 --> 20:45.480 And if you use this kind of tool, it might be much more, we need more required a lot of effort 20:45.480 --> 20:51.080 for the manual correction by the traditional user and localization community. 20:51.800 --> 20:53.080 That's all. Thank you. 20:57.080 --> 21:03.720 Sorry, I forgot to thank you, lost part that we have helped me a lot in these three years 21:03.720 --> 21:11.720 that come UK forms and marches and EV standards of public code be wooden. 21:11.720 --> 21:20.040 Let's call for your TV game, manuals and GDI handbooks. And since the subuncer 21:20.040 --> 21:24.040 for my no-turbole, chose all these days. And thank you, everybody. 21:50.040 --> 22:00.280 I was wondering if you could tell us a little more about the list of projects that I 22:00.280 --> 22:05.960 already did in my one, especially in this case, in the study of the conference. 22:05.960 --> 22:15.960 Okay, how are this list come? Is that we arrange a bow 13, a bow 13 of it? And how we 22:15.960 --> 22:24.920 choose it like we asked the which is that common communities, lost who will use the open source. 22:24.920 --> 22:31.240 They will answer, which one did they really use? And then them to them list out. And after 22:31.240 --> 22:38.040 with them, let us list them list. And we just found out some is that really civic or civic 22:38.040 --> 22:45.560 can also the civic server. We will use and also civic server. And they say they want to 22:46.280 --> 22:53.000 use. So after that we have arranged a bow. I remember we arranged a range of about 30 choice 22:53.000 --> 22:59.400 for everybody to have the survey. And after this survey, in this survey, we have a bow. 22:59.400 --> 23:06.280 I remember we have about 500 people's in the Coast Council is the biggest open source conference 23:06.280 --> 23:13.240 in Taiwan. Also in the Gabriela summit, we have this survey for them. About 500 people that 23:13.240 --> 23:20.840 answered it and we have this this ranking. Yeah, a lot of people say they, but actually, 23:20.840 --> 23:27.640 I remember from the 11 to the 16, 17, they really have a cross, really cross, 23:28.280 --> 23:37.960 really cross point of it. Yeah, they like it. And also, I know that some of our local 23:37.960 --> 23:43.000 government, let's say maybe we should use ratio 21st. Yeah. 24:08.760 --> 24:20.440 Actually, the project that I have showing it, because for the least, I joined a bow after the 24:20.440 --> 24:29.000 EV. Yeah. So the EV one after I have, I have continually, we have a negotiation with the community 24:29.000 --> 24:33.960 in Taiwan. They say if they have any help or okay, if they, if they, if they, if they, if they, 24:33.960 --> 24:39.080 if they have any help, we can still help them to continue the business. Because actually, 24:39.080 --> 24:45.720 most of the, we have, because before we joined the project, about, some of the is about 24:46.360 --> 24:54.120 40 or 40 or 50% have translated. And absolutely, we began back into the 80 or 90. 24:54.120 --> 25:00.600 And we found out, after you get into this, this high-quality, high-quality, 25:00.920 --> 25:04.920 a lot of the community was saying, oh, we're trying to eat. They, they, some of them, 25:04.920 --> 25:10.920 we just found some of them, the, the, the, the communities, the members come back. I'm really 25:10.920 --> 25:17.240 happy to see that. Yeah. Now is a wonderful time to pause. So we can have an 25:17.240 --> 25:19.240 next speaker. Thank you again. Yeah. Thank you.