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Questions then? Do you take the opportunity of the corridor hallway track to find folks

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and connect and talk about everything you've been learning at Boston? And with that

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thank you, I've got Peppain here to talk about public spaces. Thank you.

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I've worked for public spaces. I've worked for public spaces, public spaces.

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I'll just pick up. I'll look for public spaces as a network organization in the

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Netherlands of 40 public organizations, mostly cultural organizations,

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broadcasts, because we've lined it out, probably we have municipalities, we have

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the organizations, the public health, because we've been in the

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community, and all these organizations work for one common gas to cost

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create more of a digital public space and to become less dependent of big

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tech solutions. Together with these organizations, we started

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the program called the next socials, because we see these

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organizations, we see public broadcasters, we see public

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service, we see organizations, education, all having the same sort of

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needs, we need a community platform, we need a social platform, we need a

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way to communicate with our audience, with our municipalities,

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and to make sure they don't make choices that would buy each other with

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feed of each other. They work together, we started the program called

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socials, to bring all those energy in the Netherlands together.

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We talked to these people a lot, but what we never did is actually

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do research, actually get some data from them, so what we did is we

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have these 40 organizations in our network, we made it in a selection of

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10 of these organizations, and we did a little interview,

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15 minutes interviews, about what do you need from this

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provider to use it, because we see the adoption is slow, there's a lot of

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willingness, but there's not a lot of energy, so what happens,

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why do we all have a gut feeling about this, but we didn't have any

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data. So we did, we asked him, I did 15 minutes of

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13 little interviews, and I was in first, what's better for

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us to use? 42% of these organizations, and mind

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you this data doesn't say anything about all public organizations or

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all public organizations in the Netherlands, this is just

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your opinion of 10 of the front runners or nine of the front runners

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in the Netherlands. So all these people, 42% used a

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method on 70% use speech, 8% use pixel fat, and 30% use

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non of these platforms at all. So we were kind of expecting this,

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but we wanted to know why, why, what are the main

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reasons for your organization not yet working with these

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federal stores? The main thing, everybody said, well, the yield

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could, in the comparison to commercial platforms. We put in a lot of

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effort, but we don't know what we're going to get out of it. We don't have a

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small department for communication, we have limited resources, the

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thing you probably all know, the second one is also

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compared to that, we don't have enough time, we don't have enough

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capacity, and then there's some insufficient knowledge in

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house, and there's some familiarity, but this one is the main focus.

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We don't, we're not sure about the yield of these platforms.

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So this is a technical platform, we ask you what technical

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improvements we most accelerate the adoption for your organization,

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which is closely related to the first question is more

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discoverability, more findability, more easier ways to build our networks.

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But far, 30% of your organization, that's the main

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issue we're running into, and there's some issues about usability,

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there's some issues about installation, interesting

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areas, it's not a technical thing, although almost nobody said

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it will be, we need more deaths, we need more technical stuff.

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So that's a good thing, it's mostly an organization of things.

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Yeah, what challenges do you encounter most often when you're using

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the Federal Suwell? Not surprisingly, public audience, numbers,

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priority, building our networks, it's more or less

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Internet connection, but it's one thing, we also kind of

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sort of expect support. One of the things I often hear when I

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talk to you is a type of organization, our IG department doesn't support it,

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so we can use it, and we are sort of kind of expecting them to say

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this, so we'll be kind of asking, what kind of support do you need?

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But we should organization need to work with the editors.

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This data doesn't really come aside, but what we know, because we need

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access to a health test, we have access to technical support,

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but they also say, well, we need training for employees, and we have

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to exchange with other public institutions to get some knowledge, some

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examples, some best practices, and again, during the RG

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party, it isn't really that interesting here.

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What we did is, I don't know how to go back.

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We already knew this, people need access to a health test, so we started

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in the last week at public spaces, is a health test for the

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editors, so when we open to go to public spaces, we'll

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let them go around, button with the Federal

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logo, you can click on it, all public organizations in

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to get this part out of the way.

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Our health test doesn't support us, we'll do your

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health test, see what that does for us.

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Then we asked them the other way around, the

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two public organizations do to help these developers, so

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not just to help you as developers help in public

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organizations, but what would they do to help you, and we saw

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that almost 30% of them say, we can give financial

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organizational support.

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There's a lot of willingness with

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been in these organizations to get support of the

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organization.

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For instance, I spoke to the municipality of Amsterdam, and

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they switched from WhatsApp to signal, and it was

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said we had a business model there.

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We paid for that, signal we paid nothing, so they decided

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to give, what was it?

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Fifty cents per user to signal per year.

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The municipality of Amsterdam has 15,000 employees, so

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there's seven and a half thousand euros.

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They doubled it so they get 15,000 euros to signal every

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year.

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Those types of constrictions are really willing to do, so

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that's something we could learn from.

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I think that's switched.

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This one, I missed.

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The other one over here, so what are the main reasons for

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not using is for public organizations is also a

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judicial thing.

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There's no compliance.

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We need a ISO certification.

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We need a GP.

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So this is another issue for these organizations

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to adopt it.

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So take away from this talk.

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Since I want more minutes left.

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The most important thing for these public organizations is

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visibility, usability, building and effort.

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That's the most the thing that's holding them back most.

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They need support in some way or not, so if you want to help them

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support.

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And the other way around, they're also helping

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willing to give you support.

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So reach out to them.

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They're more than willing to help you to pay you to help

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the developers grow.

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And then the last one, compliance.

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Make sure you have a ISO certification.

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Do DPS have all sorts of types of seals.

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So they can have a feeling of trust.

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And nothing goes wrong with these Fediverse tools.

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That's all I have time for, unfortunately.

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The future, free to reach out,

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and be around here somewhere.

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Look at the public spaces, websites.

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Take our news letter.

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We have a message on channel.

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We have a chat room.

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And thank you.

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Great.

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We immediately have a question here.

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And that's the only one we'll take to this session.

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Thank you.

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I wonder on compliance.

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GDPR, compliance, and the production impact assessment.

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I was expecting it would be very standard across all the agencies.

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Is that or do you see some variation and variety?

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No.

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It's mostly for public organization.

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I spoke to an organization that this IT service for secondary education.

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We can't have this go wrong.

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I have to prove to my boss that we will have a data lease.

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We have to have some form of certainty.

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And it doesn't really matter what type of certainty this.

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It could be any type of certification, any type of certainty or fake certainty.

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You can give to these organizations, which help, especially these public organizations,

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I love.

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So if they don't have it, you'll never adopt it.

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Okay.

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One more time.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

