WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:09.000 Hi everybody, everyone. 00:09.000 --> 00:18.000 It's a big small dream to be here for two reasons, because we're here at Phasnam, first 00:18.000 --> 00:28.000 time, and presenting Phasnam, which is the first Italian association dedicated to the 00:28.000 --> 00:38.000 photographers, and that's a dream we had in the back of her head for many years. 00:38.000 --> 00:42.000 And we did it, yeah. 00:42.000 --> 00:47.000 So, let's start. 00:47.000 --> 00:57.000 My name is Francesco, from I come from the IT, what developer designer, and then 00:57.000 --> 01:10.000 my life, I took a different path, and I realized how urgent there are some urgent 01:10.000 --> 01:11.000 battles. 01:11.000 --> 01:24.000 For me, the most urgent one, it's the climate change, and I combine in open for future, I 01:25.000 --> 01:34.000 combine to try to explain why speak about these two things, climate change, and Phas 01:34.000 --> 01:44.000 Aktivism, especially followers, is very important. 01:44.000 --> 01:49.000 I also present Philippe and Michele. 01:49.000 --> 01:51.000 Hi, I'm Philippe de Rolyanka. 01:51.000 --> 01:57.000 I'm one of the founders of Devol, is a group of activists. 01:57.000 --> 02:04.000 Devol stands for the decentralized evolution, also the evolution. 02:04.000 --> 02:14.000 And we manage about 12 physical projects, only for the Italian, and actually the president 02:14.000 --> 02:16.000 of the media Italian. 02:17.000 --> 02:19.000 Hi, I am Michele. 02:19.000 --> 02:31.000 I am a sister of our Devol service, and we discovered that after this presentation. 02:31.000 --> 02:37.000 So, we are with who are we, sorry, I'm tired. 02:38.000 --> 02:48.000 So, Phedividian, we have a lot of independent projects in Italy, met, and decided to 02:48.000 --> 02:51.000 start this association. 02:51.000 --> 02:55.000 So, we are all independent, but we are a federation. 02:55.000 --> 03:04.000 So, there is devil, which is providing this hosting, first, first softer, 03:04.000 --> 03:11.000 based on the federation platforms, but also mixed cloud, and many other things. 03:11.000 --> 03:19.000 Open for future, climate activists, the alternative, which is a blog about alternatives, 03:19.000 --> 03:22.000 open source, but not only open source. 03:22.000 --> 03:29.000 Of which it is zero, and many more. 03:29.000 --> 03:33.000 The pillars are technology, rights, and ecology. 03:33.000 --> 03:40.000 We are trying to build an ecosystem, not only providing services, but build community, 03:40.000 --> 03:44.000 build community. 03:44.000 --> 03:57.000 We also are not just an ecological approach, but also thinking about digital rights and ecology. 03:58.000 --> 04:05.000 Here, probably it is easy, but I am also curious, who has no idea what is Fedivir's rights 04:05.000 --> 04:07.000 your hands, okay? 04:07.000 --> 04:12.000 Please come on, you are cheating, I know you, you are definitely cheating. 04:12.000 --> 04:18.000 Okay, a few people before, for the few, in this case, normal is the opposite. 04:19.000 --> 04:28.000 It is our platforms, like Maston, maybe you know Maston, they can speak to each other. 04:28.000 --> 04:38.000 So, it is not only one platform, which is spread to several nodes, but also platforms of different kind, 04:38.000 --> 04:42.000 like YouTube speaking with Facebook, sorry for the example. 04:42.000 --> 04:47.000 With a mechanism, very similar to email, okay? 04:47.000 --> 04:54.000 So, you are here familiar with email, and that is working kind of like that. 04:54.000 --> 05:03.000 It is not only about the technological aspect, but also diversity, for me, it is really important to point out that. 05:03.000 --> 05:18.000 So, you can build your server with your rules, showing different kind of communities with different kind of needs. 05:18.000 --> 05:28.000 So, these are more or less the, no, these are all the platforms that we are more or less just opening every day on new platform, kind of. 05:29.000 --> 05:36.000 We manage, complexively, all the projects. 05:36.000 --> 05:48.000 So, there is a bit of everything, this is what we try to provide, you know, different kind of endpoints for different needs. 05:48.000 --> 05:59.000 So, you can have an overview, there are many things. 05:59.000 --> 06:11.000 I have time to, of course, focus on all of them, but we started basically everything started in Italy, well, not in Italy. 06:11.000 --> 06:17.000 In, in, in over a system, everything started with Muslim. 06:17.000 --> 06:25.000 Filippo and Michele, we, we, they will focus more on this at the end of the talk, my, after my talk. 06:25.000 --> 06:33.000 Servitsili Berry, that it is also providing different kind of open source services. 06:34.000 --> 06:37.000 Okay. 06:37.000 --> 06:49.000 We open also a fedylog, so a log, a Linux user group dedicated to the Fedivers in Italy and English, it's both. 06:49.000 --> 06:59.000 Yes, it's an official Linux user group in Italy, actually, it's the first, from the fact, it's a virtual Linux user group. 06:59.000 --> 07:02.000 But also in English, I mean, it's multi language. 07:02.000 --> 07:09.000 There is also a Japanese, the Linux user group from the Fedivers, they Italian, I don't know. 07:09.000 --> 07:13.000 But it also is focused on Italy, right? 07:13.000 --> 07:19.000 Okay. We also do, like, today, outreach events. 07:19.000 --> 07:31.000 For example, the, the fedy-drink of before, it, it resonate a lot with me, because I tried to do something like that in Barcelona. 07:31.000 --> 07:37.000 We, we did for seven months, a Fedivers community, didn't work well. 07:37.000 --> 07:40.000 It was pretty hard to reach people. 07:41.000 --> 07:51.000 Also, level group wrote a book, goodbyes that number. 07:51.000 --> 08:03.000 We also do a software development, so I'm going to, to speak about, or projects. 08:03.000 --> 08:11.000 I think I'll always, I'm talking about this box called Fedimida inside there are several projects. 08:11.000 --> 08:26.000 One is, which is a Linux distributions, where you can also find direct links to, to, to, to Fedivers services. 08:27.000 --> 08:39.000 So it's, like, an interpoint, you know, I think, always thinking, how can we reach different targets of people making easier to discover the Fedivers? 08:39.000 --> 08:55.000 Because it's still, um, anish, many, most of the people have no idea what Fedivers is, and, and we're entering very hard to, to spread it around. 08:56.000 --> 09:20.000 So, we have also, um, racoon, uh, two clients, one focus on, um, lemme, which is, I can, uh, kind of, ride it, open source, Federated ride it and, and, master then, and, and, and, and, and, and racoon for a friendica, a friendica and master, and, 09:20.000 --> 09:36.000 And we open for the marketino.it, which is Flockmarked, like an eBay, let's say, that open source 09:36.000 --> 09:41.000 for in Italy, focused on Italy. 09:41.000 --> 09:47.000 It's also federated, so it can talk with other instances. 09:47.000 --> 09:52.000 And now, I talk about something I'm developing. 09:52.000 --> 09:54.000 Still in alpha. 09:54.000 --> 09:57.000 This is a plugin for WordPress. 09:57.000 --> 09:59.000 It is working. 09:59.000 --> 10:02.000 It can work with activity pub. 10:02.000 --> 10:07.000 The plugin of activity pub for WordPress or not. 10:07.000 --> 10:11.000 It can boost posts from a student. 10:11.000 --> 10:15.000 So it's kind of bots when you post in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, 10:15.000 --> 10:20.000 in a Muslim profile, it will boost from another Muslim profile. 10:20.000 --> 10:27.000 Or you can also, if, if you install the activity pub plugin in WordPress, 10:27.000 --> 10:32.000 when you publish in WordPress, nobody, if you, nobody follow you. 10:32.000 --> 10:34.000 It's like going nowhere. 10:34.000 --> 10:36.000 If you know how it works, the Fedivers. 10:36.000 --> 10:42.000 So it's like pushing, boosting that from an instance where you have a profile. 10:42.000 --> 10:47.000 It's like to spread around. 10:47.000 --> 10:50.000 Okay. 10:50.000 --> 10:51.000 Okay. 10:51.000 --> 10:52.000 Going fast. 10:52.000 --> 10:58.000 This, um, a plugin, I put a lot of efforts for, for, for a lot of time. 10:58.000 --> 11:04.000 Um, so, you know, we are in a post-truth society, where we, 11:04.000 --> 11:06.000 we could be, we could be type control, uh, 11:06.000 --> 11:09.000 uh, the value of, or megaphone. 11:09.000 --> 11:11.000 Um, and I said, think, okay. 11:11.000 --> 11:12.000 Okay. 11:12.000 --> 11:23.000 How can, um, what's, what's, uh, the, the, how work, um, um, a physical, uh, megaphone. 11:23.000 --> 11:29.000 Uh, and, and as, all these characteristics that make it really easy and accessible 11:29.000 --> 11:34.000 for everybody to use it to, to use it and, and, and on it. 11:34.000 --> 11:39.000 And, and, and, and the Fedivers is kind of the answer to this, okay. 11:39.000 --> 11:45.000 Uh, but, but people react in this way when, when you speak about the, the Fedivers, 11:45.000 --> 11:48.000 they are like, what, what, what is that? 11:48.000 --> 11:49.000 No, it's too complicated. 11:49.000 --> 11:50.000 No, no, no. 11:50.000 --> 11:56.000 So, I started to think, how, how it should be ideally, uh, a digital megaphone. 11:56.000 --> 11:59.000 Um, and I started to write down characteristics. 11:59.000 --> 12:04.000 And, and I started to think, uh, what we have that is, 12:04.000 --> 12:06.000 the closest, the closest thing to this. 12:06.000 --> 12:10.000 And maybe you're going to laugh, but, so I do, to follow me. 12:10.000 --> 12:14.000 Uh, people use WordPress is no, uh, all around the world. 12:14.000 --> 12:16.000 It runs 43% of the website. 12:16.000 --> 12:21.000 Uh, we community technology infrastructure for me is like, I see it as a, 12:21.000 --> 12:23.000 a decentralized infrastructure. 12:23.000 --> 12:29.000 People can easily buy own, uh, own domain, no. 12:29.000 --> 12:31.000 Uh, the software, the data. 12:31.000 --> 12:33.000 I mean, interesting. 12:33.000 --> 12:35.000 And you can also expand it. 12:35.000 --> 12:41.000 That's why, um, their, uh, WordPress is developing the activity pub plugin. 12:41.000 --> 12:45.000 Um, and people, but what is missing? 12:45.000 --> 12:49.000 What, what, why people are not so many people know about it, 12:49.000 --> 12:52.000 even, even inside the WordPress community. 12:52.000 --> 12:56.000 Um, people use messaging apps. 12:56.000 --> 13:00.000 We don't have messaging apps, as far as I know, in the Fedivers. 13:00.000 --> 13:02.000 And I'm really sad about that. 13:02.000 --> 13:04.000 We will use more. 13:04.000 --> 13:06.000 The Fedivers, if there will be. 13:06.000 --> 13:16.000 So I'm, I started to, to, to, to, um, try a bit to, to, to, to build, uh, 13:16.000 --> 13:21.000 uh, a, well, a prototype of a web app that is basically speaking with WordPress. 13:21.000 --> 13:27.000 Because, um, activity pub is working with WordPress. 13:27.000 --> 13:32.000 So when you, when you, when you publish something, you don't need to, 13:32.000 --> 13:36.000 it doesn't matter if you have or not activity pub installed. 13:36.000 --> 13:43.000 Um, you, you basically talk with WordPress and then activity pub extends or not, 13:43.000 --> 13:47.000 um, the rich on the Fedivers, basically. 13:47.000 --> 13:53.000 Um, and, and, and I, I started to think, okay, um, how it, 13:53.000 --> 13:56.000 I, I've always, I've always, the concept of, of a website. 13:56.000 --> 13:58.000 And I think it's really, it's really powerful. 13:58.000 --> 14:03.000 Um, so I, I think I have to go for, really fun. 14:03.000 --> 14:09.000 So, and it's really easy to install, because you can install the plugin from the store. 14:09.000 --> 14:13.000 And, um, and, and you can install the, the web app everywhere, 14:13.000 --> 14:14.000 really easily. 14:14.000 --> 14:19.000 So it's really accessible both, uh, and the, 14:19.000 --> 14:22.000 the UI is really familiar. 14:22.000 --> 14:24.000 And even use it just for publishing. 14:24.000 --> 14:26.000 Don't care about the Fedivers. 14:26.000 --> 14:29.000 And I think it's really appealing for the WordPress community. 14:29.000 --> 14:33.000 Uh, with or without activity pub, you can moderate comments, 14:33.000 --> 14:36.000 even comments, uh, from everywhere. 14:36.000 --> 14:38.000 Uh, without the Fedivers. 14:38.000 --> 14:43.000 So, um, I think, I think we, we really need this tool. 14:43.000 --> 14:45.000 I'm convinced this is a good idea. 14:45.000 --> 14:50.000 Uh, but yeah, this, the, the, the kind of set part. 14:51.000 --> 14:54.000 Um, I'm really struggling to move this project forward. 14:54.000 --> 14:59.000 And I really, really need to, to find a little developer to, to join me, 14:59.000 --> 15:05.000 like me, focus on design and somebody focusing on the, the coding part. 15:05.000 --> 15:11.000 Uh, so if you, if it managed to make you fell in love with, uh, 15:11.000 --> 15:15.000 uh, with the idea, with the, with the, with the concept, 15:15.000 --> 15:19.000 please come to me, right me, uh, thank you. 15:20.000 --> 15:21.000 Thank you. 15:25.000 --> 15:26.000 Uh, hello. 15:26.000 --> 15:28.000 Uh, this is my small guide. 15:28.000 --> 15:34.000 Uh, our leader from zero to 80,000 subscribers, 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 for a local community. 15:36.000 --> 15:40.000 This is, uh, a project that started the same years ago. 15:40.000 --> 15:44.000 We started with, uh, domene, master them, 15:44.000 --> 15:47.000 Dr. Uno, Uno is, uh, very important. 15:47.000 --> 15:49.000 The name is very important because, uh, 15:49.000 --> 15:52.000 it's sounding, the sounding is really Italian. 15:52.000 --> 15:55.000 So, it worked very well. 15:55.000 --> 16:00.000 And, uh, it, uh, it actually has a 6000 active, uh, 16:00.000 --> 16:01.000 users. 16:01.000 --> 16:05.000 This is a lot of Italian from Italian instance. 16:05.000 --> 16:08.000 It actually is, uh, by far the biggest. 16:08.000 --> 16:11.000 And, uh, okay. 16:12.000 --> 16:15.000 How we can do it in seven years. 16:15.000 --> 16:21.000 So, the launch was, uh, just this month, 16:21.000 --> 16:23.000 or seven years ago. 16:23.000 --> 16:26.000 And we just don't, uh, 16:26.000 --> 16:29.000 made a marketing, and we don't ask people, 16:29.000 --> 16:33.000 we just contact community, community of activists, 16:33.000 --> 16:38.000 or that work on free software, on digital rights. 16:38.000 --> 16:42.000 And, uh, uh, we talk about, uh, 16:42.000 --> 16:44.000 about the marketing with, uh, 16:44.000 --> 16:47.000 many communities that, uh, 16:47.000 --> 16:49.000 for me, it was very, very important, 16:49.000 --> 16:52.000 because the community then spread the noise 16:52.000 --> 16:55.000 around the, uh, the users. 16:55.000 --> 16:59.000 And, uh, after a few months, 16:59.000 --> 17:02.000 we just started to realize that, uh, 17:03.000 --> 17:05.000 the marketing wasn't enough. 17:05.000 --> 17:08.000 People were asking for more, uh, 17:08.000 --> 17:12.000 they asked for videos, for photography. 17:12.000 --> 17:16.000 And then we started to, um, 17:16.000 --> 17:18.000 peer to peer to peer to one, 17:18.000 --> 17:20.000 and peer to peer to one, 17:20.000 --> 17:23.000 just to look at the domain that the domain 17:23.000 --> 17:25.000 we use the same, uh, 17:25.000 --> 17:28.000 domain name, because, uh, 17:28.000 --> 17:31.000 it's very important to, to remember, 17:31.000 --> 17:33.000 uh, it's, uh, 17:33.000 --> 17:36.000 and, uh, they wanted to really, 17:36.000 --> 17:38.000 well, they don't add a lot of users, 17:38.000 --> 17:41.000 but they add the very, um, 17:41.000 --> 17:43.000 most of the very, uh, 17:43.000 --> 17:45.000 useful for us, because, uh, 17:45.000 --> 17:47.000 we contact, uh, 17:47.000 --> 17:49.000 video maker, photographer, uh, 17:49.000 --> 17:52.000 artists, and so we, 17:52.000 --> 17:55.000 we expand our community, 17:55.000 --> 17:59.000 beyond the open source water of the activities. 17:59.000 --> 18:02.000 Okay? 18:02.000 --> 18:05.000 So, the, after one here, 18:05.000 --> 18:08.000 the community started to be very, very big, 18:08.000 --> 18:10.000 so how can we manage it? 18:10.000 --> 18:15.000 We just ask the most active people to join us, 18:15.000 --> 18:19.000 and we just create a team of ten members. 18:19.000 --> 18:22.000 She will ten members are enough to, uh, 18:22.000 --> 18:27.000 to manage an instance with thousands of active people, 18:28.000 --> 18:31.000 and we create a collective name, 18:31.000 --> 18:34.000 and then, so, uh, 18:34.000 --> 18:36.000 we call it diverse, 18:36.000 --> 18:38.000 under this collective name, 18:38.000 --> 18:41.000 uh, we create all instance, 18:41.000 --> 18:44.000 and all the activities together, 18:44.000 --> 18:48.000 and we create also our website, 18:48.000 --> 18:51.000 so we can have our website, 18:51.000 --> 18:54.000 we've all the things we can do, 18:54.000 --> 18:58.000 so people know what we are doing. 18:58.000 --> 19:01.000 And, uh, 19:01.000 --> 19:05.000 and also, it's very, very important to create a group, 19:05.000 --> 19:07.000 a group of discussion outside, 19:07.000 --> 19:08.000 master them, 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 because master them is very nice, 19:10.000 --> 19:12.000 social, but it's not nice, 19:12.000 --> 19:14.000 for discussion. 19:14.000 --> 19:16.000 We started with matrix, 19:16.000 --> 19:17.000 matrix is very good, 19:17.000 --> 19:18.000 it's centralized, 19:18.000 --> 19:21.000 but people don't just don't use it every day, 19:21.000 --> 19:22.000 just, 19:22.000 --> 19:23.000 it's, 19:23.000 --> 19:25.000 so we started after two years, 19:25.000 --> 19:27.000 we started to, 19:27.000 --> 19:29.000 with telegram, 19:29.000 --> 19:30.000 a telegram, 19:30.000 --> 19:33.000 helped a lot to spread the voice, 19:33.000 --> 19:36.000 to increase the community. 19:36.000 --> 19:42.000 So my advice is always to have a telegram group, 19:42.000 --> 19:44.000 together with matrix, 19:44.000 --> 19:46.000 and, 19:46.000 --> 19:47.000 uh, 19:47.000 --> 19:49.000 so after a few years, 19:49.000 --> 19:54.000 because the money to everything was very high. 19:54.000 --> 19:58.000 After we pay 300 euros for master them every month, 19:58.000 --> 20:02.000 and two other euros for all other service. 20:02.000 --> 20:03.000 Master is, 20:03.000 --> 20:04.000 by far, 20:04.000 --> 20:05.000 the most expensive, 20:05.000 --> 20:08.000 we have a most of the people there, 20:08.000 --> 20:10.000 and we use, 20:10.000 --> 20:12.000 we still use master hostel, 20:12.000 --> 20:15.000 because it's very important for us, 20:16.000 --> 20:19.000 because we can think about everything, 20:19.000 --> 20:21.000 as then hosting. 20:21.000 --> 20:24.000 It's still very complicated to manage 20:24.000 --> 20:28.000 6,000 people active, 20:28.000 --> 20:30.000 so, 20:30.000 --> 20:32.000 success fine. 20:32.000 --> 20:33.000 Okay. 20:33.000 --> 20:36.000 I will pay you to be pay with coffee, 20:36.000 --> 20:39.000 be small contribution, 20:39.000 --> 20:41.000 and with liberal pay. 20:41.000 --> 20:43.000 Again, liberal pay is very nice, 20:43.000 --> 20:48.000 but coffee is the better for waste money. 20:48.000 --> 20:49.000 Okay. 20:49.000 --> 20:51.000 That's fine. 20:51.000 --> 20:54.000 Let's talk about the numbers quickly. 20:54.000 --> 20:55.000 With Master.1, 20:55.000 --> 20:57.000 we have 70, 20:57.000 --> 20:59.000 8,000 users, 20:59.000 --> 21:02.000 and 500, 21:02.000 --> 21:04.000 110 gigabyte database, 21:04.000 --> 21:06.000 one terabyte of video files, 21:06.000 --> 21:07.000 so, 21:07.000 --> 21:09.000 is an inactrotic website. 21:09.000 --> 21:10.000 So, 21:10.000 --> 21:12.000 we need a professional set, 21:13.000 --> 21:15.000 because we follow the project 21:15.000 --> 21:17.000 all in our spare time. 21:17.000 --> 21:20.000 So, we use the Master.0 service, 21:20.000 --> 21:21.000 so, 21:21.000 --> 21:23.000 we can focus on community, 21:23.000 --> 21:24.000 moodration, 21:24.000 --> 21:25.000 content, 21:25.000 --> 21:28.000 and not on technical issue, 21:28.000 --> 21:29.000 for example, 21:29.000 --> 21:31.000 to pay the system, 21:31.000 --> 21:33.000 or in case of incident, 21:33.000 --> 21:34.000 and so on. 21:34.000 --> 21:37.000 And for all the other services, 21:37.000 --> 21:40.000 we manage it by our own. 21:40.000 --> 21:41.000 So, in particular, 21:41.000 --> 21:45.000 we use some two physical service, 21:45.000 --> 21:48.000 and this two service is 21:48.000 --> 21:51.000 with the debion distribution, 21:51.000 --> 21:53.000 and why you know host software, 21:53.000 --> 21:56.000 because with this software, 21:56.000 --> 21:59.000 we can manage it easily, 21:59.000 --> 22:01.000 and in the hearser, 22:01.000 --> 22:02.000 for example, 22:02.000 --> 22:04.000 with pitchup.1, 22:04.000 --> 22:08.000 we have more than 1,000 users, 22:09.000 --> 22:11.000 and the data is 22:11.000 --> 22:13.000 one terabyte, 22:13.000 --> 22:14.000 and more. 22:14.000 --> 22:15.000 So, 22:15.000 --> 22:18.000 it's not too easy to keep 22:18.000 --> 22:20.000 always up and running. 22:20.000 --> 22:22.000 And, 22:22.000 --> 22:25.000 we have two physical service, 22:25.000 --> 22:27.000 but second hand, 22:27.000 --> 22:28.000 the server, 22:28.000 --> 22:29.000 not a new server, 22:29.000 --> 22:31.000 but old model. 22:31.000 --> 22:32.000 And, 22:32.000 --> 22:35.000 we also have two VPSs, 22:35.000 --> 22:39.000 and we use why you know host. 22:39.000 --> 22:43.000 It includes burger for the backup. 22:43.000 --> 22:45.000 For whatever is fundamental, 22:45.000 --> 22:48.000 because with this kind of backup, 22:48.000 --> 22:50.000 we can move a single application 22:50.000 --> 22:51.000 or more than one. 22:51.000 --> 22:53.000 From one server to another. 22:53.000 --> 22:56.000 So, if you want to change a provider, 22:56.000 --> 22:57.000 for example, 22:57.000 --> 22:59.000 you can restore the application 22:59.000 --> 23:00.000 directly from your host. 23:00.000 --> 23:03.000 So, it's very easy to manage, 23:03.000 --> 23:07.000 and every user can 23:07.000 --> 23:09.000 just one click install 23:09.000 --> 23:12.000 and start with a software Federation. 23:15.000 --> 23:16.000 So, 23:16.000 --> 23:19.000 if you want to create a local community, 23:19.000 --> 23:20.000 just contact us. 23:20.000 --> 23:22.000 We are familiar with you. 23:22.000 --> 23:26.000 You can have our email or address. 23:26.000 --> 23:28.000 We are very happy to have people 23:28.000 --> 23:31.000 that want to create local community. 23:31.000 --> 23:34.000 So, if you want to finish? 23:34.000 --> 23:35.000 Yeah, I mean, 23:35.000 --> 23:37.000 I got out. 23:37.000 --> 23:39.000 I got the time wrong, 23:39.000 --> 23:43.000 so I went super fast in my presentation. 23:43.000 --> 23:45.000 No, I didn't think. 23:45.000 --> 23:47.000 But we have a bit of time left. 23:47.000 --> 23:55.000 Maybe if there are questions about something. 23:55.000 --> 23:57.000 One device, 23:58.000 --> 24:00.000 change my call to small mic. 24:00.000 --> 24:01.000 Yeah, there we go. 24:01.000 --> 24:05.000 Does anybody have any questions for our friends here? 24:09.000 --> 24:11.000 So, I want to say a big thank you, 24:11.000 --> 24:13.000 because we had a ton of submissions for the devroom, 24:13.000 --> 24:16.000 and we had a ton of Italian submissions for the devroom. 24:16.000 --> 24:18.000 So, this was kind of a, 24:18.000 --> 24:21.000 I think it combined some combined things here. 24:21.000 --> 24:24.000 So, thank you for accommodating that, 24:24.000 --> 24:26.000 and being part of the day today. 24:26.000 --> 24:29.000 Does anybody have any questions for the, 24:29.000 --> 24:30.000 for our friends here? 24:30.000 --> 24:32.000 There's one across here, okay? 24:34.000 --> 24:36.000 I, 24:36.000 --> 24:37.000 I, 24:37.000 --> 24:38.000 I wondered, 24:38.000 --> 24:40.000 for the musted on Punto Uno, 24:40.000 --> 24:41.000 instance, 24:41.000 --> 24:44.000 you are more limited by storage, 24:44.000 --> 24:45.000 compute, 24:45.000 --> 24:48.000 or RAM for your infrastructure. 24:48.000 --> 24:49.000 For infrastructure. 24:49.000 --> 24:51.000 I know that it is managed, 24:51.000 --> 24:54.000 but for the three components, 24:55.000 --> 24:56.000 because what is the limit? 24:56.000 --> 24:57.000 The, 25:00.000 --> 25:01.000 the musted, 25:01.000 --> 25:02.000 of the, 25:02.000 --> 25:04.000 is a professional advice, 25:04.000 --> 25:06.000 so they scale up, 25:06.000 --> 25:07.000 if, 25:07.000 --> 25:09.000 if we need more space, 25:09.000 --> 25:11.000 they provide us easily. 25:11.000 --> 25:12.000 We, 25:12.000 --> 25:15.000 we don't care about resources in this case. 25:15.000 --> 25:16.000 We, 25:16.000 --> 25:17.000 we don't, 25:17.000 --> 25:19.000 we care of resources for all the other, 25:19.000 --> 25:20.000 for the rest of the, 25:20.000 --> 25:22.000 but not for Mastergon, 25:22.000 --> 25:23.000 because, 25:23.000 --> 25:26.000 is included in the package. 25:26.000 --> 25:28.000 Okay, thank you. 25:42.000 --> 25:43.000 I, 25:43.000 --> 25:44.000 thank you for the presentation. 25:44.000 --> 25:46.000 So this is a non-technical question, 25:46.000 --> 25:48.000 but maybe there is a technical answer. 25:48.000 --> 25:49.000 So, 25:50.000 --> 25:52.000 you work a lot with the activities, 25:52.000 --> 25:53.000 cyber activists, 25:53.000 --> 25:56.000 you say that one of the pillars of your project, 25:56.000 --> 25:58.000 is the intertwining between, 25:58.000 --> 25:59.000 ecologies, 25:59.000 --> 26:00.000 right, 26:00.000 --> 26:01.000 and technology, right? 26:01.000 --> 26:02.000 So, 26:02.000 --> 26:03.000 but then you operate in a country, 26:03.000 --> 26:04.000 where at the moment, 26:04.000 --> 26:06.000 there are a bit complicated, 26:06.000 --> 26:09.000 because there is a far right ruling party, 26:09.000 --> 26:11.000 that is, 26:11.000 --> 26:13.000 prosecuting activities of different kind, 26:13.000 --> 26:14.000 a lot, 26:14.000 --> 26:15.000 as you know, 26:15.000 --> 26:16.000 there, 26:16.000 --> 26:18.000 there was a recent decree 26:19.000 --> 26:24.000 decided that roadblocks are criminal offenses now, 26:24.000 --> 26:27.000 which are a practice that is used by many, 26:27.000 --> 26:30.000 environmental activists and so on and so forth. 26:30.000 --> 26:31.000 So my question is, 26:31.000 --> 26:33.000 like what kind of measure do you have in place 26:33.000 --> 26:38.000 to protect the safety of the activists that use, 26:38.000 --> 26:40.000 your instance and your service? 26:40.000 --> 26:41.000 Like for example, 26:41.000 --> 26:43.000 if the Italian police comment, 26:43.000 --> 26:44.000 okay, 26:44.000 --> 26:46.000 there was a roadblock and this person 26:47.000 --> 26:50.000 who has an account on your master on uno-participated, 26:50.000 --> 26:52.000 and we want data about the dispersion, 26:52.000 --> 26:55.000 so what are the options that you have, 26:55.000 --> 26:56.000 and I mean, 26:56.000 --> 26:58.000 how could you react and what kind of data 26:58.000 --> 27:02.000 could the police obtain from you? 27:02.000 --> 27:04.000 Very easy to answer to this, 27:04.000 --> 27:06.000 I'm just joking. 27:06.000 --> 27:07.000 I think it's, 27:07.000 --> 27:09.000 it's really complicated. 27:09.000 --> 27:12.000 It's probably more a question for you, 27:12.000 --> 27:14.000 it's really complicated because you manage 27:14.000 --> 27:16.000 your master on uno-participated. 27:16.000 --> 27:17.000 I mean, 27:17.000 --> 27:19.000 I answered just my part. 27:19.000 --> 27:20.000 I think we, 27:20.000 --> 27:21.000 well, 27:21.000 --> 27:22.000 in extension of value, 27:22.000 --> 27:23.000 for example, 27:23.000 --> 27:25.000 I've been in extension, 27:25.000 --> 27:27.000 rebellion and fetus of future. 27:27.000 --> 27:29.000 In extension of value, 27:29.000 --> 27:30.000 there are guidelines, 27:30.000 --> 27:31.000 okay, 27:31.000 --> 27:33.000 to don't bring your phone, 27:33.000 --> 27:34.000 don't bring your computer, 27:34.000 --> 27:35.000 encrypt your, 27:35.000 --> 27:37.000 this kind of stuff. 27:37.000 --> 27:40.000 Then there is, 27:41.000 --> 27:42.000 you're answering. 27:42.000 --> 27:44.000 Master, 27:44.000 --> 27:47.000 it's very good software for privacy. 27:47.000 --> 27:48.000 So, 27:48.000 --> 27:52.000 we don't store anything about the activist. 27:52.000 --> 27:56.000 We ask to use metrics to exchange, 27:56.000 --> 27:59.000 we have a crypt of the room, 27:59.000 --> 28:01.000 to extension, 28:01.000 --> 28:07.000 and we ask people to don't share 28:08.000 --> 28:11.000 the picture of the face. 28:11.000 --> 28:13.000 We should not, 28:13.000 --> 28:17.000 it's forbidden to share identity about people. 28:17.000 --> 28:21.000 So, we have a really careful about this, 28:21.000 --> 28:23.000 to spread the name, 28:23.000 --> 28:25.000 date, 28:25.000 --> 28:26.000 also, 28:26.000 --> 28:28.000 where we meet, 28:28.000 --> 28:32.000 because we have a lot of problems 28:32.000 --> 28:34.000 with activist, 28:35.000 --> 28:37.000 so they ask, 28:37.000 --> 28:38.000 also, 28:38.000 --> 28:41.000 as to be in a very unique format. 28:41.000 --> 28:43.000 Just, 28:43.000 --> 28:47.000 in the rule is forbidden to share 28:47.000 --> 28:50.000 sensitive information about the people. 28:50.000 --> 28:51.000 So, 28:51.000 --> 28:55.000 nobody can know what people are, 28:55.000 --> 28:57.000 because we, 28:57.000 --> 29:00.000 as a demonstration, 29:00.000 --> 29:03.000 I just have an IP address, 29:03.000 --> 29:06.000 that is the last IP address user. 29:06.000 --> 29:07.000 So, 29:07.000 --> 29:10.000 we don't know the IP address user, 29:10.000 --> 29:13.000 maybe two months ago. 29:13.000 --> 29:16.000 So, even the police ask me, 29:16.000 --> 29:18.000 something I can only give, 29:18.000 --> 29:21.000 or we have only the last IP. 29:21.000 --> 29:22.000 So, 29:22.000 --> 29:24.000 I don't know who's, 29:24.000 --> 29:26.000 this account, 29:26.000 --> 29:27.000 two months ago. 29:27.000 --> 29:28.000 So, 29:28.000 --> 29:30.000 it's really protected about this, 29:30.000 --> 29:31.000 but we don't, 29:31.000 --> 29:33.000 we never have a problem about this, 29:33.000 --> 29:35.000 because we have very big, 29:35.000 --> 29:37.000 in the very, very small, 29:37.000 --> 29:39.000 in the world, 29:39.000 --> 29:40.000 social, 29:40.000 --> 29:41.000 the world. 29:41.000 --> 29:42.000 Okay? 29:42.000 --> 29:43.000 I think, 29:43.000 --> 29:44.000 I also, 29:44.000 --> 29:45.000 I think the interesting thing, 29:45.000 --> 29:47.000 you can have a direct, 29:47.000 --> 29:48.000 you can, 29:48.000 --> 29:49.000 you can speak directly with, 29:49.000 --> 29:50.000 with managing the instance, 29:50.000 --> 29:52.000 if something happens, 29:52.000 --> 29:53.000 you know, 29:53.000 --> 29:55.000 it's not a company, 29:55.000 --> 29:56.000 that, 29:56.000 --> 29:58.000 you mean that they contact the police, 29:58.000 --> 29:59.000 the answer to the police, 29:59.000 --> 30:00.000 I don't know, 30:00.000 --> 30:01.000 but, 30:01.000 --> 30:02.000 yeah, 30:02.000 --> 30:03.000 I just want to close, 30:03.000 --> 30:04.000 thank you, 30:04.000 --> 30:05.000 everybody, 30:05.000 --> 30:06.000 and, 30:06.000 --> 30:07.000 and, 30:07.000 --> 30:08.000 same, something I, 30:08.000 --> 30:09.000 I forgot to say, 30:09.000 --> 30:11.000 because, 30:11.000 --> 30:12.000 I, 30:12.000 --> 30:13.000 while working, 30:13.000 --> 30:14.000 to, 30:14.000 --> 30:15.000 to Fedipress, 30:15.000 --> 30:16.000 I had, 30:16.000 --> 30:17.000 very huge burnout, 30:17.000 --> 30:18.000 I think we, 30:18.000 --> 30:19.000 we have to shout, 30:19.000 --> 30:21.000 more about, 30:21.000 --> 30:22.000 the, 30:22.000 --> 30:23.000 the, 30:23.000 --> 30:24.000 the hard part, 30:24.000 --> 30:25.000 the human part, 30:25.000 --> 30:26.000 to, 30:26.000 --> 30:27.000 to bring forward, 30:27.000 --> 30:28.000 all these ecosystem, 30:28.000 --> 30:29.000 not only the technology, 30:29.000 --> 30:30.000 I think we have to speak more, 30:30.000 --> 30:31.000 the human part, 30:31.000 --> 30:33.000 mental health, 30:33.000 --> 30:34.000 especially. 30:34.000 --> 30:35.000 Thank you. 30:35.000 --> 30:36.000 Thank you. 30:36.000 --> 30:37.000 Thank you. 30:37.000 --> 30:39.000 Thank you. 30:39.000 --> 30:41.000 Thank you so much. 30:41.000 --> 30:42.000 I think that, 30:42.000 --> 30:43.000 it's a really important point to, 30:43.000 --> 30:44.000 to make as well, 30:44.000 --> 30:45.000 so I appreciate it. 30:45.000 --> 30:46.000 Thank you.